“Porn is a discourse about sex and works like an educator about sex and gender.”

“I think that sexual education, and porn education, is more vital and effective than censorship.”

When we consider banning porn who are we protecting or punishing?

Those involved in the making of it? Those who watch it? Those who are affected because of the way porn influences the society’s ideas about sex, objectification of women and women’s sexuality?

In this interview Feminist erotica director Erica Lust talks about how ‘traditional chauvinistic porn are part of a patriarchal structure’ and more. In her opinion, “porn is a discourse about sexuality and works like an educator about sex and gender.” 

She makes a lot of sense.

Porn needn’t be smutty: Feminist erotica director Erica Lust

Let me share some quotes.

1.

“…why do you think more men than women watch porn? Because most films cater to the male gaze only! Alternative erotica offers more diversity, higher production standards and exciting narratives that both genders can enjoy!”

2.

In chauvinistic porn, the sad reality is that women are often taken advantage of, abused and forgotten when they have been “used.” I want to have an alternative to that! There is no reason sex in film should all be done in a smutty, shady, exploitative manner – it can be done in a safe space, artistically, humane and with respect for everyone involved.

3.

My performers, men and women, … are all sex-positive and smart people, who understand that sex is a beautiful thing and nothing to be ashamed of!

4.

Porn is a discourse about sex and works like an educator about sex and gender– so if a massive part of the cultural landscape, meaning traditional porn, is chauvinistic in its portrayal of women and embodies regressive ideas about women, sure those ideas are going to rub off when they are presented time and again. That’s why it’s important to have positive alternatives.

5.

I think sometimes as a woman, it can feel as if your sexuality has been hijacked – maybe by society’s ideas about sex, social stigma, mainstream porn, unrealistic beauty standards. To enjoy sex, you have to think about what you want, what desires and fantasies you want to entertain and what makes you happy, and also what doesn’t make you happy.  It’s good to know that all the images we see about sex are not necessarily true.

 

Another link,

It is no secret that adult content available caters largely to men; it is “disturbing”, says Manchanda how much of it is misogynistic. More than 90% of all explicit adult content contains violent imagery and derogatory language towards women…  [Read more: Saying it explicitly: Why Indian women watch porn]

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‘a majority of people. societies. and communities shun this natural process. some are more comfortable with the pornification of women.’

Who benefits from banning of Porn sites?

Does porn affect how men view sex, women and children?

An email: Also this is a genuine question and not a pornographic mail.

Many of us view watching porn as a harmless activity…

What the hell is difference between a homemaker and a porn star?

Three Ministers, including the Women and Child Welfare Minister caught watching porn in assembly.

Question about Sexuality in Indian Arranged Marriages

Several well-known businessmen arrested in Hyderabad on Sunday for being involved in a high profile prostitution racket.

“Such mannequins will excite men and pose a danger to women.”

“There is so little conversation about a woman’s desire for sex that a lot of people simply assume it doesn’t exist.”

The Guwahati mob molestation video and the Gurgaon mob molestation video.

Many of us view watching porn as a harmless activity…

 

Who benefits from banning of Porn sites?

I think it’s good to have a very clear idea of exactly why we are banning something and how the ban, or lack of a ban, would affect those who are involved.

Who is harmed by internet Porn?

1.Those who are exploited, (if there is coercion, threats, deceit, sexual assault,  [link] violence, or any other kind of exploitation) for creating this porn?

2. Or those who view Porn? How are they harmed? What kind of Porn is harmful?

Is all kind of Porn misogynistic – degrading, humiliating, objectifying and exploitative of women (or children)? If it is not, then would you still view it as harmful?

Could Porn be used to change attitudes towards sex, sexuality and women?

How is Indian Culture harmed by Porn being available on the internet?

Consider this. How do random, self proclaimed protectors of Indian Culture view sex? We don’t approve of sex education. Until recently, we permitted (even advertised in trailers?) ‘rape scenes’ and banned kissing scenes in Indian movies. And many of us still view premarital consensual sex as ‘rape’, and marital rape as sex. With so little respect for human rights and so little acknowledgment of women’s sexuality – how exactly do some of us think does Indian Culture view sex and sexuality?

“According to reports the government will also ask NGOs to create awareness and sensitizing the ill-effects of porn.” [link]

What do you think would these ‘ill effects’ include?

What would change if we do manage to ‘ban’ porn from the internet?

Here’s the link:

Government asks internet providers to ban porn sites and upgrade their infrastructure.

… According to reports the government will also ask NGOs to create awareness and sensitizing the ill-effects of porn.

Minister Ravi Shankar stated that although porn is legal in some countries, this issue should be observed in the “context of Indian culture and moral obligation towards society”.

 

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“Girls need to be little bit aware of the consequences. Men – will enjoy …”

“The rape victim had gone there willingly. She was not lured into it. They drank vodka.”

Guwahati mob molests girl, video goes viral online.

The Guwahati mob molestation video and the Gurgaon mob molestation video.

Dev D 

Three BJP Ministers, including the Women and Child Welfare Minister caught watching porn in assembly. 

“Girls need to be little bit aware of the consequences. Men – will enjoy …”

Here’s a positive news. An Indian American family is taking action against a man allegedly attempting to black mail their daughter by threatening to share her nude photos online.

Daughter of Indian-American billionaire allegedly blackmailed over nude pictures TOI link shared by Rachna (who blogs at Naari, here). I would have changed the heading to ‘Billionaire takes stern action against man allegedly attempting to blackmail his daughter.’

Not everybody saw this as positive. For some it was not about a criminal being punished, but about an unmarried girl forgetting that her body belonged to her future husband. Disagree?

So a young woman, during a relationship, “voluntarily took nude photos and video,” which she shared with the man she was in relationship with.

Imagine another young woman who shared similar photos with a man she was married to.

When they break up the men decide to black mail the two women by threatening to share the pictures on the internet.

Do you think the second woman would receive more support? Why? Doesn’t that also automatically make it less likely for a married man to threaten his wife with sharing her nude photos?

This is how Patriarchy reinforces itself – by this deeply entrenched system of rewards, concessions, threats and punishments.

In India gang rapists record themselves committing a crime and threaten to ‘expose’ the proof that could lead to their conviction (Punishable with life imprisonment/capital punishment) Those who should be taking immediate action to arrest the criminals, watch rape videos (in the Assembly!) and ask women to watch how much skin they are showing. [Three BJP Ministers, including the Women and Child Welfare Minister caught watching rape videos in assembly.]

For some this comes as an opportunity to reinforce misogyny. 

Girls need to be little bit aware of the consequences. Men, no matter where they are from – will enjoy the company, moment and then also try to extract money from the wealthy… having said that this man need to be punished so no other man try to fool the ladies…

One sane voice:

“its hard for judgemental people to understand but this is a LAW and ORDER issue not a moral one, it is not hard to see from the comments why so many atrocities happen against women in India.”

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Slut Walk. And how women’s bodies are different, so they need to be covered for their own safety.

“why not marry them first and then have sex ? What prevents you from doing it ? Deep within YOU WANT JUST SEX and nothing more”

Romanticizing innocence, chastity and related taboos for women.

What is this big problem with Bra Strap Showing?

Here’s why I think the society should not obsess over a woman’s virginity.

Contrast what C C Patil said about crimes against women, with what the man we met in Mewat said :

Feeling safe, learning and unlearning nothing in Mewat

Does porn affect how men view sex, women and children?

Does porn affect how people view sex, women and children? Do you think porn encourages men to rape children (or anybody)?

If rape scenes in movies are said to affect the way Indian men view sex (i.e. men want, women provide; women never want hence can never consent or else are ‘loose character’; men always want sex; men can rape for sex; men are provoked by loose women to rape them; women must marry the rapist to save their honor etc) then what about porn?

Would free access to sex education change this? If people knew or acknowledged that sex was meant to be a consensual and mutually pleasurable act, and that sex was not against Indian values, would there be better understanding that those who rape are not sex-starved people but criminals with serious and dangerous mental and social issues?

Do you agree with the comment shared below this news link?

Gurgaon: A five-year-old girl was brutally raped and then abandoned near a metro station in Gurgaon on Saturday, the police have said. The minor has suffered severe internal injuries and is being treated at Delhi’s Safdarjung Hospital.

According to the police, the girl was allegedly lured away by a man who offered to give her food during a langar (community lunch) near the Bristol Hotel in Gurgaon. He later raped her….

[5-year-old brutally raped, abandoned near metro station in Gurgaon]

Do you agree with this comment:

People shout at top of their voices against the police, the government and the nation itself. No one speaks about the abyssmal downfall in values. Will any group concerned with this, fight against the free access to porn, which is the root cause of men becoming animals? No. Majority people will fight against any ban on porn. So whom do you blame? Blame yourselves for spawning these dreadful animals. [5-year-old brutally raped, abandoned near metro station in Gurgaon]

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Five rapists in Patna want to marry gangrape victim.

They rape a class mate, they also make an MMS of their act. Then, when they are arrested and interrogated, they are so ashamed that all five of them offer to marry the girl they raped.

Most Indian rapists don’t expect the crime to be reported or taken seriously (or else they won’t dare make videos of their own crimes). They are also used to the society acting like their lawyers – shaming, blaming and silencing the victims. So these arrests must have come as a shock to them. They seem to believe the offer would make them seem suitably ashamed? What kind of life-partners do these five rapists think they would make for any woman?

Police said that a month after the incident, the accused had visited a cybercafé near their school to get a CD made of the clippings so they could allegedly blackmail the victim in the future.

What do you think do these young Indian men think marriage is? What makes them have that idea of marriage?

Rapists in Patna want to marry gangrape victim

Patna, Aug 1: Five persons accused of gang raping a girl in Patna’s Rajvanshi Nagar have told police that they were ashamed of their act and want to marry the victim…

Patna police says,  all of them now want to marry the minor schoolgirl.

“During interrogation, they felt ashamed of their act and repented before they were produced in court,” a police officer said.

Does the police seem sympathetic to the rapists? Why was marrying the victim seen as an option?

Rachna on Naari blog (in Hindi) asks,

It’s disgusting that a rapist thinks marrying him would be an honorable option for the rape victim.

So, who needs to look honorable in the society? And who is seen as capable of providing that dignity?

One of the rapists was the victim’s boy friend, what do you think must be the mental state of the teenager after a betrayal like this?

Read more about these five rapists here.

Bhagwad Jal Park suggested that apart from maximum jail terms, the rapists/molesters should also be made to pay a significant amount of monetary compensation to the victim.

“When offenders are normally punished, the woman doesn’t benefit in any way. And the offender knows this. So it’s still a net loss for the victim, regardless of punishment. The purpose has been served. She was “taught a lesson”. But imagine if the victim were to benefit from the offender? Then he would think ten times before carrying out his plan. Because far from “teaching her a lesson”, he knows he will have to suffer to directly benefit her! No longer can he just assault her and have no more connection to the woman, leaving her with the shame and horror of what happened. Instead, his hard earned money will be transferred to her regularly.”  [Molestation Cases – Make the Offender Pay the Victim]

Don’t you think instead of letting rapists suggest getting married to the victim, they should have to not just go to the jail but also pay compensation to the victim?

The Guwahati mob molestation video and the Gurgaon mob molestation video.

Arnab Goswami on Times Now said his channel was against showing the Guwahati molestation video. I feel the video is available online for anybody who wants to see it – and a huge majority who has watched the video has reacted with horror and outrage. This is not the first time a rape/molestation video has been made and shared in India, in fact one reads about such videos and MMS clips being used to blackmail and humiliate the victims. [link]

I wonder what C C Patil (the Karnataka Women and Child Welfare Minister) felt when he and a few other ministers watched one such rape video during the assembly. [link] (Savadi  allegedly claimed, he ‘was watching the video clip of how a woman was raped by four people to know about the incident and prepare for a discussion on the ill-effects of a rave party.’)

Did these ministers feel the outrage that the rest of the country is feeling today?

In the Gurgaon video [link], I couldn’t get the image of the victim out of my mind, she kept  running and screaming hysterically even after the molesters had been chased away and she was safe. In the Guwahati video [link] there is hatred and smirk, not lust on the faces of the molesters.

(The nation was outraged by a similar smile on the face of S P S Rathore who molested Ruchika Girhotra.)

All these are the smiles of men who knew they were not going to be punished.

The video made it clear that these sexual assaults were about hate, power and aggression. The rapists’/molesters’ intent was not to ‘satisfy their lust’ but to humiliate and to cause hurt.

Indian censor board has done the Indian society terrible harm by banning scenes which show healthy, warm, caring tenderness and sensitivity. And worse – by permitting titillation via Rape Scenes.

Since we also prohibit healthy sex education, these rape scenes are how many Indian young men learn about sex.

For those who learn about sex from rape scenes and cheap porn, a woman’s consent is not expected or relevant.

Movies like ‘Three Idiots’ joke about ‘balatakaar‘ (rape). Now, after watching these this video, would you be able to laugh at rape jokes?

What makes people joke about rape? Maybe we use the word ‘rape’ when we mean to say sex?

One Hindi channel kept using the term ‘chedkhani’ to describe these assaults Chedkani is what parents tell children to stop doing – irritating mischief or annoyance.

Police officers, political leaders, the society and those who should know better refuse to make it clear to sexual criminals, with word and action, that sexual crimes would not be tolerated. Why don’t they?

Maybe because some of them watch rape videos at work and some others are convicted of molesting teenage girls.

Gurgaon Mob Molestation:

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