62-year-old Indian man admits to sexually touching sleeping woman on plane.

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“Treatment of sexual assault in Western Society – 

I request you to publish this news regarding sexual assault and how actually it should be dealt in a civilized society. What actually culture and civilisation means and gives support to its member.”

What do you think would have been the first reactions if this crime had taken place in India?

Indian man admits to sexually touching sleeping woman on plane

NEW YORK:  A 62-year-old Indian man has pleaded guilty to sexually touching a woman seated next to him aboard a flight from Houston to Newark and faces two years in prison.

The accused, Devender Singh, a resident of Louisiana

…  The charge carries a maximum potential penalty of two years in prison and a USD 250,000 fine. He is scheduled to be sentenced in October.  … Singh was seated next to a woman who occupied a window seat on a United Airlines flight from Houston to Newark. While the plane was in the air, the woman fell asleep and awoke to find him kissing her face with his hand inside her shirt.

After pushing Singh off of her and telling him to get away, the woman complained to a flight crew member about the incident and asked that the police be present when the plane landed.

The federal government has exclusive jurisdiction over all sexual abuse cases that occur on aircraft in flight in the US.

 

These TOI comments reflect how sexual crimes are viewed by many Indians,

1. Many seem to consider sexual assaults a natural outcome of men finding women sexually attractive.

Airliners has to allot seats in such a way to prevent this type of incidents, urge and attraction is God’s creation between two sexes. Our elders out of evolution and experience they have advocated,wearing veil,wearing non explosive dress code as advised by elderly intelligent people,monogamy,advise giving respect to fair sex and exhibiting their private parts publicly.

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2. Others believe it’s young men who commit such crimes because they have no control over their ‘natural instincts’.

Hahahahah such a disgusting and funny thing i read today !! :v :p 60+ yrs old person hahha Chokra jawaan re jawaan re !! [the boy is young, is young]

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3. The idea that sexual assaults are caused by a man’s inability to ‘control their instincts’  is deep rooted.

A very shameful act that too from a 62 year old. When will people learn to control their instincts? The punishment is good and he deserves it for putting India and Indians to shame.

Fact: The rapists often don’t see their actions as crimes, the police said, and don’t expect the victims to report them. [link]

Why don’t we hear any talk about the requirement for consent in any sexual activity? Maybe because we fear that’s Sex Education?

Also, media campaigns could help create awareness about how often Sexual Crimes are not crimes of ‘lust’ or ‘natural urges’ but of hate, aggression and revenge (as in ‘Teaching a lesson’ to the woman) and sometimes of simply not knowing that any sexual act without consent is a crime.

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24 thoughts on “62-year-old Indian man admits to sexually touching sleeping woman on plane.

  1. I have said it again and again here and elsewhere on discussions about sexual crimes, the Indian families need to teach their children the concept of consent- to their girls to have one and express it and to their boys to have one and also respect that of a woman.

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      • I think there are three issues:

        1) We strip women’s ownership of themselves and hand it to their father/ brother/ husband.. and call it ‘tradition’.

        2) We teach men that they are entitled to be served by women (in various ways).

        3) Women are brought up mostly to stay virgins for their husbands because their ownership will be transferred to hubby at marriage. Rape is a crime against their ‘honour’, not against them as a person.

        Before people can even get to consent, they will need to accept and understand that women own themselves. Not women’s dads, not their brothers, not their husbands.. they are full human beings that have full autonomy and ownership of their own selves. As long as people believe that women’s fathers/ brothers/ husbands/ khap panchayat owns them, consent doesn’t come into the picture.

        My property cannot consent to me living in it or to a thief breaking in. When the thief breaks in, the crime is against me and not against my property. This is exactly how our ‘culture’ and ‘tradition’ treat women.

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  2. poor parenting when he was young, poor self control, poor morals , entitled old man and just plain bad. needs to be put away from all of humanity for a while till he gets to learn about boundaries and respect.

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  3. I think the TOI comments perfectly demonstrate why we have a sexual violence epidemic. If we are failing to give people the basic understanding that men are not uncontrollable animals and women don’t exist for public consumption, what else do we expect?

    It’s really ironic that one of the comments finds this news article as a valid place to glorify the traditional advice of ‘elders’ (he means old men obviously) telling women to cover up and hide at home.. when it was an ‘old’ (by indian standards) man who was sexually violating a woman here. Self-serving entitled victim blaming to the hilt!

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  4. Why is the comment indicting the man’s “inability to control” was hardly a ‘men will be men’ kind of comment, was it?

    That commenter seemed glad that the man was being punished. Wasn’t he?

    Why is that comment considered wrong?

    Isn’t perversion about instinct gone wrong and ubridled? To say that doesn’t amount to condoning perversion.

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    • Because in many, many cases, it is not the inability to control, but a sense of entitlement (I am a man and I have my needs) or victim blaming (she is dressed to reveal so she’s fair game or she’s out late at night so she’s asking for it) or ignorance regarding consent (women are also sexual beings, they can ASK for physical intimacy, and they can REFUSE intimacy, it is not simply thrust on them).

      Yes, in some cases such as psychological illnesses, perversion is inability to control one’s instincts – these people need psychological and medical treatments, until then, they are unsafe to be free and inhabit public spaces.

      The difference between the former (majority) and the latter (fewer) – the former do it because they WILL NOT respect boundaries, the latter do it because they CANNOT respect boundaries. Both kinds of criminals need to be put away. The former will hopefully learn their boundaries through punitive measures. The latter will hopefully rehabilitate through psychological and medical help.

      IHM is referring to the former category because the vast majority of sexual crimes belong in this category plus this is something that can be rectified through building awareness – about consent and boundaries.

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    • Because its not inability to control. Do you think men become perverts overnight ?
      Its the way they were brought up,lust,no respect for women and Indian men (in fact the subcontinent men) have prior seen that women here won’t make a hue and cry !They have got away with such things earlier so the pervert keeps doing it getting bolder and bolder !
      I wish India had such tough laws !
      Instead,if women makes ruckus of a pervert especially somebody who she knows or crosses her path everyday ,she gets acid thrown at her face!!!
      Why don’t we have attempted murder stance for acid throwers ????

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  5. A similar incident had happened to me when I was travelling to B’lore from Kerala by bus yesterday. I had always preferred AC Volvo buses thinking the passenger crowd would be better since the tickets are costly (Not any more, though!) . And this time it was super expensive due to the festive season (Onam in Kerala). I wanted the aisle seat , but got the window seat. Around four o’clock in the morning, I felt something moving by my side (window side) . At first, I could not make out what exactly was that and I thought may be the curtains. By then, I was kind of awake and the next time time when I felt the same, I could clearly see a hand coming from behind my seat and trying to fondle me. I turned around just to see the guy sitting behind me pretending to be asleep. When I started shouting at him, he pretended like he just woke up from deep slumber and looked at me passively as if he does not have a clue as to what’s going on and he does not give a damn whatever it was. And so were all others who woke up hearing my shouts. These “others” included a lot many young guys , girls , and families. The bus crew were trying to sort out the stuff ASAP and amicably. I wanted to slap this bloody ba***** very badly, but I was too dejected by the turn of events.

    On the one hand, we have such perverts among us who think they can get away doing such acts. And on the other hand, we live in such an insensitive society which does not even bother to react.

    To top it off, the girl who sat next to me commented: Why do you make such a huge fuss?? This happens every now and then. Raising such hue and cry does not make any difference. What you will achieve is you just let the whole world know what’s happened to you and feel humiliated.

    Man,I was at my wit’s end. I seriously could not decide whom I was angrier with. The pervert or the next-seat-girl.

    The only consolation was I had verbally slapped and humiliated him. May be the next time,when he gets the itch, he would think twice, now that ,he got to know there are people who will react rather than keeping mum.

    I just winder…

    When will Indian men learn the simple fact that our bodies belong to us and us only? And that no one can touch our body without our consent even if the guy in question is the husband?

    When will Indian women learn the simple fact that our bodies belong to us and us only? and that we have to stand up and fight the world when our bodies are violated even in the smallest way without our consent?

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    • you are nice you left her alone, i would have subject her to an unending lecture on womens, bodies, rights etc., full on lecture🙂 , such girls need ot be taught, or they will go ahead have kids and transfer this thinking to their kids both boys and girls.

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    • You are right, the girl’s ‘let it go’ attitude and the other passengers’ indifference are actually much worse than the actual crime because they enable such criminal behaviors. This guy may have done it once and then stopped it, IF properly screamed at and shamed by the entire bus. But this guy will go on repeating his behavior multiple times because he knows he can rest assured that the negative spotlight will be on the girl who is ‘making a fuss over nothing’ while he can slink away into the shadows.

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  6. Probably if this had happened in India people would’ve wondered what the fuss was about and the police would’ve asked what she was wearing at the time.

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  7. There is no scarcity of perverts around the world. Irks me every time I see, hear or read something like this. And then the entire fault is blamed on the female and judgement passed on her character by one and all from inside the air-conditioned rooms. Crazy!

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  8. If this had happened in India, it would have been reported something like this – X years old married/single woman touched by man on plane.
    And then the article would carry photos of the woman.And her account of what actually happened.How ashamed she felt, how ashamed her parents felt,how his is is an attack on her commu nity ,honor, etc etc.
    And nothing about the man.

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  9. The age of this person is receiving particular attention.
    I don’t believe it has anything to do with it.
    This man would have behaved like this this at any age.
    What do we know about his past misdemeanours?

    And there those like me.
    At 65 now, and even earlier at 50, 40 30 or 20 (choose the number) , this behaviour was simply unthinkable for me and for everyone of my age group that I know well.Most of us would simply retch when told about this kind of behaviour and recoil in horror.

    This pervert deserves a kick for shaming my age group.
    While rightly condemning and demanding severe punishment for this rogue, please do not abandon faith in our generation!

    Regards
    GV

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    • Good point. I agree age has nothing to do with it. I don’t feel this shames the 60s age group at all because every person is an individual. I don’t get it why some of the TOI comments are making a big deal about him being 65. Also, there were comments about how he is bring shame to Indians. How can all Indians be the same? How can one Indian uphold the honor of others? There will be good Indians and bad Indians and that has nothing to do with them being Indian.

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  10. Creepy, old men -fathers, husbands, uncles, grandfathers, priests, teachers, school principles, politicians, businessmen, bosses, in general anyone in a position of authority or power or seniority, who sexually molest and hurt young infants, toddlers, youth and adults (regardless of gender) have long been acknowledged and punished as pedophiles, rapists and sex offenders in the Western world. In India, no one likes to talk about them in this way – because, you know, it could be someone from your own family- and who wants that shame – never mind if someone innocent continues to be victimized and scarred for life because of this. Instead it is much easier to follow “Indian tradition” and ask everyone to respect them as “wise elders”, touch their feet, serve them, so they can continue doing what they do with no condemnation from anyone whatsoever.
    Before everyone hurries to thumb this down, please do note, that I have not said “all” old men. I have not said “only” old men. Just calling out those that are a menace to society. It’s time we dragged them out of their secure armor of “Indian tradition” and called them out for what they are.

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