Sharing a comment – is this troll-talk or a genuine comment?
You don’t understand the difference between an opinion and a fact, do you?
No 1) Women are irresponsible: This is an opinion
No 2) Millions of indian girls have been aborted: This is a fact
You can weasel your way out of the opinion (no 1) with a counter-opinion. It doesn’t matter because it is just an opinion. But you cannot weasel your way out from a fact (no 2). No 2 is a tangible problem. To undo this fact, you will have to make indian women responsible. Convert them from a liability to an asset. Running an online blog dedicated to criticising and putting (shifting) the blame on indian men does not help anything. At best, you will get the same irresponsible men (the girly men) I was talking about earlier posting one nonsensical comment after another. Two months ago, these same girly men were running all over the internet posting comments for hanging and castrating the delhi rape accused and really putting on a show for the female readers to show that they were “outraged”. But in the end, Opinions belong in the dustbin. Facts are all that matter.
Below is my response. How would you respond to this?
you will have to make indian women responsible. Convert them from a liability to an asset.
IHM: Indian women are ‘a liability’? Which Indian woman is a liability and for whom? Do you say this because Indian women are generally not compensated for the choices they are denied, careers they are not ‘allowed’ or for motherhood and parenting?
Or do you mean the way Indian girl children are seen as liabilities, by Indian society, parents and family elders?
Who should the Indian girl children become ‘assets’ for?
Do you mean they should stop relocating; renaming themselves; giving up their social lives and support systems, career opportunities, property rights, personal growth, freedom and self reliance to serve and obey the families of the Indian ‘assets’ – the ‘budhape ka sahara’ (the Shravan Kumars)? Meaning Indian baby girls should be told to stop preparing for this future from the day they are born (if they are born)?
What makes some Indian parents decide that sons are ‘assets’? The same thing that makes Indian parents see Indian daughters as Paraya Dhan. So the only way Indian daughters can be seen as assets is if they stop being paraya dhan and become budhape ka sahara for their parents.
Another thing that seems to make Indian parents see baby girls as liabilities is sexual crimes against women and children. How can the baby girls take the responsibility of ensuring that they stop these crimes (so that they are not seen as liabilities)? Traditionally, silencing (by blaming, shaming, threats or murder) the survivors, or killing future ‘victims’ was seen as an acceptable method for dealing with sexual crimes. Today we are acknowledging that centuries of (well intended?) blaming, shaming, boycotting, silencing, stigmatising and killing of rape victims has not discouraged the rapists from raping.
Running an online blog dedicated to criticising and putting(shifting) the blame on indian men does not help anything.
IHM: It’s not men versus women. Misogynists can be both men and women. Patriarchy does not empower all men, nor does it completely control all women; patriarchy (in India) basically empowers the parents of budhape ka sahara.
Do take a look at thirteen interesting facts about Misogynists, here, 13 things Indian Misogynists believe about men’s mothers and sisters.
IHM: Girly Men? Let me quote Cynically Engineered.
“Contrary to what some people think, men are conditioned by patriarchy too. Just like women, they are brought up to “fit in” with their preconceived gender role. And this conditioning certainly affects the way we look at the world.
One of the biggest expectations from a man is financial success. What image do you see when you picture a man who would be traditionally considered “successful” in society? No doubt, he has a great job, a big house, expensive gadgets, a fancy car and depending on your point of view, either a wonderful, loving wife or an ensemble of good-looking women hankering for his attention.” Do read more here: Honor and Masculinity: How Patriarchy Warps Your Thinking
“Why are so many people insecure about their gender identity? Why the hell is it almost compulsory to subscribe to the cheap pop sociology…
News flash: If you have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome and have no issues with that state of affairs, you ARE male. That’s all there is to it. You don’t have to prove it. You don’t have to shout it from rooftops. You won’t get any trophies for it. You are not entitled to any special benefits for being it. You don’t get to order people around. Others don’t get to order you around. You are entitled to emotions. You are entitled to being human. You, sir, are just another self aware organic lump with integrated support systems, cognitive thinking abilities and the potential to do as well and better than any human has done before you. Nothing more and nothing less.” [Link: Man’s Man? No thanks.]
Two months ago, these same girly men were running all over the internet posting comments for hanging and castrating the delhi rape accused and really putting on a show for the female readers to show that they were “outraged”.
IHM: Those who were asking for castration of the rapists were looking at rapes as purely sexual crimes, caused because the rapists were sexually attracted to the victims. Many rapes are crimes of hate, power, aggression, resentment and Patriarchy (E.g. rapes for revenge, to dishonour, to teach a lesson etc).
About capital punishment for rapists: Why don’t we hear demands of capital punishment for acid attacks? Because ‘robbing a woman of her izzat’ is a crime not against the woman, but against her husband, honor, community – Patriarchy. Would you call a Rape Survivor a Zinda Laash?