Men in Delhi Metro women’s coaches fined Rs 32 lakh

What makes such a large number of men insist upon travelling in coaches reserved for women? Maybe they don’t expect to be questioned or fined, or maybe they genuinely believe women should not have reserved coaches?

Could these men’s sense of entitlement be this strong – do they really fail to see that there is a serious social problem here? Are they really unaware that women are harassed in public spaces, so much that a huge number of women don’t travel after dark, many constantly worry about what they are wearing, (and how they are talking, walking, laughing etc), many don’t pick up jobs that require a commute, many are denied education and many depend on male family members to accompany them even to places like hospitals?

NEW DELHI: Fines from men travelling in women’s only coaches have swelled Delhi Metro coffers by a staggering Rs 32 lakh in the two years since the rule was introduced on Oct 2, 2010, an official said.

“Since the introduction of reserved coaches, 12,757 men have been fined Rs 3,189,250 for unlawful entry in the last two years,” a Delhi Metro official told IANS.

To view this from another perspective: In the two-and-a-half years till July 2011, a total of 19,325 commuters were fined Rs.34 lakh for various offences like obstructing officials or travelling beyond the authorised distance. This makes men travelling in women’s coaches the biggest offenders.

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Do you think the problem is disrespect for rules in general, or crowded coaches?

One comment,

this can be only resolved if more no of coaches and frequency will get increase… due to other coaches are crowded one will always get in where crowd is less….

I also wonder if some people really see reserved coaches as some kind of special indulgence towards women?

Could some of these men be molesters who resent being denied the opportunity to harass women (maybe harass them, Indian movies style, into falling in love with them!)?

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36 thoughts on “Men in Delhi Metro women’s coaches fined Rs 32 lakh

  1. I think it’s majorly because other coaches are much crowded but there are few people who take advantage of this and barge in to the women compartment. I won’t be astonished at the figures mentioned by government official, as i have seen the same thing in Mumbai locals as well. May be the solution exist in increasing the number of coaches but there is always uncertainity behind any solution we don’t know a prior.

    Finally after a looooooooonnnnnng time I am commenting and reading full post of yours:-/ I remember I used to fight for first comment here.😛
    P.S: I hope I made it first this time atleast😉

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  2. “Could some of these men be molesters who resent being denied the opportunity to harass women (maybe harass them, Indian movies style, into falling in love with them!)?”

    Really?? these men get into compartments or buses full of women because they want to harass them? You think that is possible? A single person taking on a potential mob in India? Most probably they are just tired of waiting for transportation that does not arrive or tired of being treated like cattle that wants to molest at every given oppurtunity

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  3. It’s a mix of a lot of things I feel – A lot of them do consider special coaches as a privilege/indulgence towards women and are unhappy that they have to travel in relatively more discomfort – These guys obviously don’t realize the real reason behind this “indulgence” – I don’t think women want this indulgence – They would rather have a safer society as a whole where such coaches are not required.
    Another factor is a complete disregard of rules and regulations – They just don’t give a damn! I’ve seen people come into the women’s compartment just before a stop so they can get down in comparative ease –they were just pushing and jostling the women!
    And off course the biggest factor is that majority of the men simply can’t resist the chance to ogle at a coach full of women – It is an opportunity too good to pass (sic!)

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    • And off course the biggest factor is that majority of the men simply can’t resist the chance to ogle at a coach full of women

      They can very much resist it, as they happen to have similar cognitive thinking abilities as women. Men are as human as women, it’s just that so many believe (correctly) that they can misbehave without any major consequences.

      Let’s not get into the ‘incorrigible men’ attitude that promotes these archaic methods of controlling harassment in the first place.

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    • I don’t live in Delhi but I have used metro 8-9 times and from what i have seen :
      1. men generally keep away from the ladies coaches but sometimes when the metro is overcrowded men do spill into the ladies compartments.

      2. Women in women-only compartments do not allow men to enter. All of them gang up and keep them away.

      3. I think a lot of men would want to feel up women in crowed coaches but can’t do so because of the presence of public.
      I have actually seen a man being beaten up by women for entering the coach on the one that goes from Rajiv Chowk to Gurgaon.

      4. A lot of men are pissed off by the women-only coaches and consider them as a privilege for women.

      On a different note you may find the following interesting:
      http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/109cnf/im_not_sure_what_to_conclude_from_this/

      P.S.- This is a reply to the post and not the comment. For some reason I don’t see the Reply button to the original post

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  4. I do not doubt that there are thousands of men (and probably women) who believe that the reserved coaches are a special indulgence. However, I also do not doubt that a majority of these offenses was likely committed for practical, not ideological reasons, carried out in the shadow of the general Indian ‘it’s not a crime if you don’t get caught’ attitude.

    I do not utilize the Delhi Metro service very often, but on the occasions I have, I do attest that it can get very, very crowded in some locations. Therefore, since there are no actual security personnel on board the train, I don’t find it surprising that some of the men decided to venture into the women’s compartment to get a respite from that crowd. On these occasions, they did happen to get caught, but I suppose many aren’t, so it happens again and again. The only surprising part is that the women themselves did not react, as I have heard they do, when such an encroachment occurs.

    It goes without saying that I do not condone such encroachment, but I have to say that I have no love lost on the reserved coach system either. It is no solution at all, it is a manifestation of discrimination against women a manifestation of a pathetically weak-willed justice infrastructure which does next to nothing to protect even the rights of urban, middle-class people who do not lack access to the system (let alone people who are marginalized from it). To all extents and purposes, it normalizes harassment on public transport, it tells harassers that the police cannot actually do anything to stop them apart from simply sequestering away their potential victims.

    The Rs. 300,000 or so that the authorities have managed to obtain is a monument of shame, for it points to their inability to do their job without coming up with ‘easy fixes’ like separate coaches, it points to them being completely unable to enforce those fixes as well, it points to the sad fact that women and men have to separated in India for the women to feel safe, it points to the fact that in terms of equality, in terms of basic rights, in terms of judicial access, India is far, far away from growing and changing the same way the economy is.

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    • > To all extents and purposes, it normalizes harassment
      > on public transport, it tells harassers that the police
      > cannot actually do anything to stop them apart from simply
      > sequestering away their potential victims.

      Ah the police in India. You know its not true that they “cannot actually do”.

      Really, peasant, how dare you demand they “work” for you?

      Let’s look up our dictionary:
      “Police (n). (Latin politia). Taxpayer funded goons for the ruling party”.

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  5. In my experience, most men are not aware why compartments on trains (or seats on buses) have to be reserved for women in the first place. According to them, this is just one more example of how women are accorded privileges that are denied to men.

    This is not just limited to illiterate people. Even educated men, who come from the so-called cream of Indian universities, also espouse the same view. It’s mainly because they do not have a clue as to what women go through every day. So they do not really appreciate the need for such segregation. Even I have a rudimentary idea only because I read the posts and comments on this blog and other similar blogs. Otherwise I’d be clueless too.

    In my opinion, whenever the government comes up with such initiatives, they should do a better job of highlighting the reason for such decisions, highlighting the daily harassment that most women have to put up with. This might help to increase understanding and lessen resentment.

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    • //In my opinion, whenever the government comes up with such initiatives, they should do a better job of highlighting the reason for such decisions, highlighting the daily harassment that most women have to put up with. This might help to increase understanding and lessen resentment.//

      I agree.

      While I realize that the ratio of cops to people is very low in India and street sexual harassment is not considered a serious enough offense to investigate and prosecute, the least the govt can do when in accords women these “privileges” is educate people on why it ends up having to do it.

      Why not run public service announcements on the radio, TV, in schools/colleges, movie theaters etc. Why not make TV stations play the PSA before every soap or serial they air. They could also rope in some leading actors and actresses to act in these clips. Doordarshan used to air this PSA with Rajinikant asking moms to get their kids vacinated against Polio in the 80s. I’m sure with the popularity of Amir Khan’s SMJ there will be a number of actors/celebrities who will be wanting to do it, some even for free.

      And bonus points if the ad shows what the proper behavior is instead of just saying harassment is wrong.

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  6. Overcrowded coaches obviously isn’t a valid reason – nor is increase in the number of coaches a solution. It is nothing but utter disregard for the law and a lot of mischief – “Main to ladies compartment mein hi chadhta hoon – bindaas”.

    I don’t have the numbers but if somebody were to check number of such offences in the Bombay locals – I am sure it wouldn’t be that high.

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  7. Possible reasons:

    1)Accidental entry (This is rare. They move out as soon as they realise it)

    2)Gents compartments were too crowded to get into and unwilling to miss the train and wait for the next. They take a chance at not getting caught and that no one will notice or complain. Sometimes if some lady complains they pretend it was accidental and apologise and agree to get off at the next station.

    3) Elderly or handicapped person traveling with a lady escort and not wanting to be away from her in another compartment or the lady herself deliberately keeping her male companion with her intending to explain to co passengers or authorties later if questioned.(Rare but not unknown. I have seen a blind male with a lady escort getting into a lady’s compartment. No one objected)

    4)Sexual frustration. They get a vicarious thrill in being close to female bodies, hearing female sounds, and imbibing female smells. They also hope some lady will brush against their bodies. They will also try to do so and pretend it was accidental.

    5)A devil may care attitude and genuinely convinced that the the law is wrong and wanting to defy it.

    6)Hoping for an opportunity to steal a handbag and scoot. It’s easier when the victim is female

    7)Genuine ignorance of the rules and unable to read the signs (Rare). Sometimes happens when one is in a foreign country.

    8)Showing off to friends. Boasting that he can do it and get away with it. Often done after betting with a friend.

    Any other reasons that occur to others?
    Regards
    GV

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  8. I travel by trains quite often and this is what I have observed – There is no single reason for Men traveling in ladies coaches.
    1. Men resent WOMEN for having separate coaches. They don’t understand the need for separate coaches. They think it’s a privilege being given to the Women. Also, not only do women have separate coaches, we also have a “ladies special” train.

    I will always remember this incident. Once, just as I reached the station, it was announced that the train to my destination had reached the station. I ran to the ticket counter, bought a ticket and started running towards the train…. Along me, another guy was also running, he looked like he was in a hurry. Then, suddenly he groaned and stopped. I kept running, but wondered why he stopped. Then I saw the train and realized it was the “ladies special”. I really felt sorry for him, because the next train wasn’t for another 30 mins. We should either do away with the ladies special or also introduce a gents special – which should travel 5 mins+/- to the ladies special.

    Oh, and btw, these ladies specials run during “peak” time when MOST people are in a rush to go to office.

    So, in a way, I can understand the men’s resentment. The general compartments are always over crowded, with barely space to breathe (Yes, I have also traveled by general on occasion – and almost fainted because I felt suffocated) On top of it, we have these ladies specials, which travel almost empty.

    2. Many times families traveling together find themselves separated as women and children travel in ladies coaches and men go in the general. Some times, they find it too complicated and the entire family either just travels in the general compartment or the guy risks getting caught and travels in the ladies compartment with the rest of his family.

    3. Some guys just get on to break rules/ogle girls, etc…. But, in my opinion these are pretty rare… Once, I was returning home pretty late (It was 9:30) from office. There was just 3-4 other women in the compartment. I started playing with my phone and didn’t pay attention to my surroundings. Suddenly I looked up and realized all the other women had gotten off the compartment and instead 2 guys had gotten on the coach. They came and sat in the row right beside mine. The warning bells in my head went off. But, I didn’t move. Then, one of the guys moved and sat in the seat right opposite to mine. So, I got up and moved to the other end of the compartment. I saw that it wasn’t 2 guys but 3. I was terrified. I was all alone and no security guard in sight. The next station I was about to get off the compartment when thankfully a security guard finally came and yelled the 3 guys off the coach. Then the rest of the trip the guard stayed in my coach only.

    So, you see the ladies coach hasn’t protected me in anyway. In hindsight, I realized at that time of the night I would have been safer in the general compartment as It would have been more crowded.

    Segregation isn’t making women safer. It only makes some men hate us more – as if we are being given special treatment and it provides the predators (men who WANT to harm women) an easier target because they KNOW the ladies special will be full of “potential victims”.

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    • Wanted to add: Also, some do it as a tit for tat. Many consider the general coach the gents coach. So, they resent the women who travel in the general. They say if women can travel in general then why can’t we travel by ladies coach?

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      • I do agree to with all that u have said… and it is a sad state of affairs…

        its funny I find a lot of ppl pointing fingers at the west… having traveled on the trains in Australia for the most part is so much more relaxing and even on a crowded day there is little or no bother from ur fellow passengers. There is no segregation, everyone is treated as equals. As an unwritten rule seats are offered to the elderly particularly those who might be handicapped or feeble due to old age, seats are offered to pregnant moms.

        And for all the culture tat we indians harp on about in nearly every public space we fail to extend such courtesies or treat the other person as human being irrespective of the race, color, gender or religion.

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  9. Mr. Praveen, in his comments has summed it up perfectly.
     
    I used to use the Delhi metro to get back from work, till very recently, as I didn’t have the energy to drive in the Delhi traffic and the metro was the fastest way to get home. During peak times, the 4 coach metro trains would be very overcrowded, especially if one tries to board the metro from one of the bigger stations (Rajiv Chowk, Central Secretariat, etc.) In such cases, the ladies compartment would be relatively less empty, since there tend to be far less women outdoors in mainland India than my part of the country (where it is the opposite). While there are cases of molesters and oglers using that as an excuse, there are also times when men enter ladies coaches just as a respite from the crowds.
     
    Also at times, when the train is about to leave, men barge into the ladies coaches, since the stairs leading to the platform is usually next to the first coach. At other times, we are few men with a group of women (male pilots travelling with stewardesses/lady pilots), so we would stand in the corridor between the ladies and men’s coaches to keep company (since it is better and easier than ‘invading’ the ladies coach).
     
    Having said that, I do think the tone of women in this blog against men travelling in ladies coaches, whether deliberately or indeliberately, is rather condescending and negative. People do resent when they feel others get underserved privilege. As an unprivileged male, who is both an ethnic and (implied) religious minority in India, I often had to bear resentment from people who believed I have been privileged by reservation. My own colleagues in the airline believe that I got my position as affirmative action, even though I had 3 years of foreign experience before joining the company. It is just a fact of life that I have learnt to deal with.
     
    Also, as Mr. Praveen pointed out, reserved coaches for the genders is utterly parochial. Not only is it a simplistic way to shove a serious law-and-order issue in the country, it also does a dis-service to amending the gender gap in India – by segregating men and women; and socially programming women from a very young age to think of men as predators and men to think of women as undeserved reciepents of privileges.

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    • it also does a dis-service to amending the gender gap in India – by segregating men and women; and socially programming women from a very young age to think of men as predators.

      I agree.

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    • People do resent when they feel others get underserved privilege.

      Why do you feel it’s a “privilege” that women get separate coaches? In what way is it a privilege that separate coaches have to be created so that women can be free from harassment? I can tell you that many women (whether they’re feminists or not) would be happy to travel without feeling they must travel in separate coaches.

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      • “Why do you feel it’s a “privilege” that women get separate coaches?”
        I feel that rather than jumping the gun, you should read the paragraph that follows the sentence you quote. Having done that, try rephrasing the question, to remove the underhanded implication that it is I, who thinks women are privileged when they get reserved coaches.
         
        Having said that, in a feudal societies like India, the Arab world and Eastern Europe, both men and women are accorded privileges and an acute sense of social hierarchy. The type of privileges and how much one can actually exercise their privilege depends on their position in the class, age and gender hierarchy.
         
        Contrary to popular feminist belief, privilege isn’t the exclusive domain of the male gender, but women as well, who have their own set of privileges (~’women are wonderful’ social trope). ‘Male privilege’ is neither pervasive not inherently beneficial to every man out there. So rather than pointing fingers at each other and trying to whip up a drama about who has it better (and vice versa), I’d like to see contructive, rational arguments – one that actually work to put forth more neutral and realistic perspectives.
         
        Now if you will excuse me, I’ll get down the soapbox.

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        • Contrary to popular feminist belief, privilege isn’t the exclusive domain of the male
          It seems like your’e the one who is the jumping the gun, no one here has said that privilege is only a male domain. It’s possible to be disadvantage in other ways, yes you can have male privilege, but you will lack privileges in other areas. And if I read your comment incorrectly then I apologize for that.

          but women as well, who have their own set of privileges (~’women are wonderful’ social trope).

          Women are wonderful social trope? Yes I’m aware of that trope, but I certainly wouldn’t call that a “privilege.” Many other feminists alike will not either. If anything, it’s just another form of “benevolent” sexism. Also think about who created that trope. Who created it? Where did it originate? Besides, even if that’s the case, women don’t necessarily benefit from that trope. What type of actual social or political advantages do women get? I can tell you, not a lot.

          So rather than pointing fingers at each other and trying to whip up a drama about who has it better (and vice versa), I’d like to see contructive, rational arguments – one that actually work to put forth more neutral and realistic perspectives.

          There’s no need for you to get defensive, if you didn’t like my question that’s perfectly fine. No one her is trying to whip up drama nor point fingers, as I said if you feel my question was harsh or accusatory in anyway that’s perfectly fine, you can disagree with me accordingly and yes I read your comment.

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  10. Someone has to pay the price for killing girls in the womb and preferring boys. Boys and men, the preferred one’s, will have to face crowded compartments!

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        • As a matter of fact, I did not thumb you down, even though I should have, because I think that statement was flawed on multiple levels.

          Your post implies that not having a reserved coach is somehow a punishment for men, which means that the reserved coach is a privilege granted to women. That is exactly the sort of thinking IHM is railing against. It is not a privilege, and if I were a woman, I would be very insulted by this ‘gesture’. You can put that down to the fact that I am probably blinded by male privilege, but to me, it seems downright stupid, callous and condescending of the authorities when women are told, ‘Well, we can’t protect you from harassment, since we don’t give a flying fig about protecting your rights. Instead, we’ll give you a special coach where you can hide away from those harassers, and as long as you stay in that coach and stick with other women, you’ll be safe’.

          It’s funny, isn’t it? When a serial killer is on the prowl, the police does not focus on making special safe-houses for people, so the big bad serial killer won’t get to them. No, they focus on apprehending the killer, so people are free to exercise their rights and freedoms, and then they focus on punishing the criminal, so as to create deterrence. But what happens when it comes to street harassment? Oh no, no sirree, now that’s something we just won’t act against. Instead, we’ll confine all our measures to the potential victims, telling them to dress a certain way, act a certain way, stay in a certain place, and then blame them for not being good little girls when some two-bit harasser misbehaves and encroaches upon their most basic rights in the vilest way possible.

          Let’s talk about the other part of your argument, about sons being the preferred ones. Pray explain to me how a child is responsible for the social views of its parents. If my mother prefers boys to girls, am I to blame? Even if not having a special compartment was actually some kind of punishment, pray give me one ethically justifiable reason why I should be punished for something I have absolutely no control over.

          Let’s talk about culpability. Let’s talk about the people doing all the preferring, the people doing all the infant-killing. By the same logic, they should be punished with crowded coaches too. Are they not the ultimate culprits, after all? But are they all men? Many are, undoubtedly. But what about those MILs who will torture a poor bahu to death for not giving her a son? What about those mothers – many, supposedly educated – who will teach their daughters that they are paraya dhan? Why are they not equally responsible for the male-child preference? Why should we not punish them with crowded coaches? Surely, it makes more sense to punish them than their sons!

          Patriarchal thinking is a social, not male problem. Not only is it true that many older women can be beneficiaries of patriarchy, the fact is that many men are victims of it too. As many people here have been at pains to point out, the war is not between men and women, it is between people who want equality and those who want to preserve their own undeserved privilege. There’s a difference that all of us would do well to acknowledge.

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        • I did not have much time to elaborate on my comment and PT’s reaction.

          The context in which I said that is this.

          Well upto the 2000’s, the last row in buses in Chennai was reserved for women. From the 2000’s on wards, the last row began to be occupied by men. Even if the conductor in the bus asked the men to vacate the seats, they would not. At first, it was happening in a few buses, then it began in all buses. It did not matter, if there were only a few women standing passengers. But in crowded buses, with a lot of standing women, the last seat continued to be occupied by men. The point is more men are competing for resources and they are encroaching on the little that is given for women.

          I did not write my point with reference to one man’s entry in a compartment, which I know would be very exaggerated. But left unchecked, one man will multiply to several encroaching on one women’s compartment.

          PT – I still have not read you elaborate reply, because I have some work and looking at the long essay, I know I will need to come back and sit with time on my hand to read it.

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    • That remark, even if it was in jest it was in poor taste!!

      IT really is sad that over the years women have for the most part been subjugated to discrimination by and overtly patriarchal society, I can relate to that, anyone who discriminates another human on the bases of religion, race, status, color, creed, sexuality or anything else should never be tolerated, entertained and should be punished for the same for their stupid actions.

      That does not mean you make a blanket statement that every man or women should be persecuted for the sins of their fathers or others. That is just plain stupid !!

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  11. 1. “Women come into general compartment so whay can’t we go into the womens ” — i don’t know how many times i have had to say ” It’s a general compartment not mens you idiot” — inspite of the fact that i hate that we need rserved spots for women, we shouldn’t we are all equal and we should not have to tolerate harassement, but like my husband says ‘ no one in the govt cares a rat’s ass about your bashan ‘🙂

    2. We love to break rules, if no one is watching we don’t follow rules, we are like little kids, we need to be forced to follow common basic good rules. or scared into following rules. we have to be told , hate to waste our buddhi and dimaag on such mundane tasks as following rules.

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  12. This is why I strongly disagree with policies that create separate traveling coaches in any place. India isn’t the only country that has to resort to this, it’s also happening in countries like Japan, Israel, etc. There’s even been discussions about this in the United States. Separate travelling coaches won’t solve harassment, because as I’m seeing here in some of these comments raise the issue of how a lot men don’t know the reason why there are separate travelling coaches for women and simply view it as “privilege.” But even if some men knew the reasoning, then it would become a discussion about how men are being discriminated against.

    That being said, another reason why I think separate coaches is a bad idea is because when there’s overcrowding, so I could see how some men may resort to travelling with women’s coaches because there’s not a enough room.

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  13. Im actually one of them dudes who has taken a ride in the womens compartment, and i did not mind paying the fine. But definitely had nothing sinister in mind. It was only cos the the General compartment was overly crowded. IF the women compartment was just as crowded i wud not have entered there either.

    I think the Indian railways needs to provide for more coaches or trains …

    As a man who has nothing against women and absolutely for equal rights for women and against gender based violence…

    I sometimes find myself distraught at times that Im also a target thanks to actions of others who would try to take advantage of the situation for sinister reasons of their own…

    IF a girl can choose to travel in the general compartment and expect not to be mistreated, i guess i would like to be extended the same courtesy… I know tats asking for too much… oh well lets hope our wishful thinking will become a reality in a good way for all concerned

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  14. Praveen (PT), Very nicely written and articulated. May your tribe increase. I agree, compartmentalizing a particular segment of society is only excaberating the problem and it is not going to lead to a solution. As a woman, who has travelled by Mumbai local in the night, I find it safe to travel in a general compartment rather than the ladies. If strength is to be had in numbers, then you are most likely to get it in the general compartment in which you are most likely to see more people than in the ‘special’ compartment. I would say, more men should travel in the special women’s compartment, and it is high time that this segmentation is abolished by the society rather than us looking up to the law, which does nothing to prevent any untoward incident.

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  15. Mathew, I agree with what you saw and empathise with you. A crowded general coach is obviously less appealing than an emptier ladies coach. I would just like to point out that the general coach is not the men’s coach.. it is free for all to travel in, including women. So there is absolutely no courtesy being extended to women by ‘letting’ them travel safely in the general coach. It is meant for both genders, i.e. ‘general’, again, and not ‘gents’.

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    • As i said it was just wishful thinking… I said if a girl can travel in a general compartment and expect not to mistreated (and often they are mistreated, groped or harassed) THAT i too wish i would not be frowned upon… cos the assumption is that im there to gawk at girls or there for something sinister (and i dont blame them for feeling that way) HENCE wishful thinkin🙂

      Ideally we should not have segregation, our govt. came up with a stupid quick fix, rather than address the root of the problem….

      It sucks if while traveling that families or husband and wives have to travel in 2 separate compartments ….

      As i mentioned in an earlier post and it is a sad state of affairs…

      I find it slightly amusing when many point fingers at the west… having traveled on the trains in Australia for the most part it is so much more relaxing. Even on a crowded day there is little or no bother from ur fellow passengers. There is no segregation, everyone is treated as equals. As an unwritten rule seats are offered to the elderly particularly those who might be handicapped or feeble due to old age, seats are offered to pregnant moms.

      And for all the culture tat we indians harp on about in nearly every public space we fail to extend such courtesies or treat the other person as human being irrespective of the race, color, gender or religion.

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  16. First we create conditions to segregate women and then we complain if they are given priviledges based on that segregation.
    If men in our country would behave like humans and were taught the importance of respect and space, there would not have been a need for a separate coach.

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