Shouldn’t Mamta Sharma and Kailash Vijayvargiya be held accountable for the statements they make?

How did Mamta Sharma and Kailash Vijayvargiya come to the conclusion that certain kind of clothes worn by women would find approval (?) of Indian sexual criminals?

Did they make a genuine effort to understand sexual crimes?

Did they rely on the recommendations made by those who think watching porn is the way to understand criminal assaults on women?

Or, like many others who offer prompt advice, are they using Bollywood movies to understand sexual crimes?

Is it difficult for them to believe that sexual crimes thrive on a culture of tolerance and even abetment to sexual assaults?

Why don’t we see those responsible for women’s welfare, empowerment and safety, actually conduct surveys and analyze results to find out why India is the fourth amongst the worst countries for being a woman?

Why not give sincere thought to what kind of attitudes and tolerance encourages Indian sexual criminals to become so fearless?

Or what gives Indian sexual criminals the  assurance that some Indian men and women would always find justifications for what made them hate, strip, beat and rape an innocent citizen?

At the very least, they could resist the urge to make statements that convey to a criminal that crime would be tolerated.

Here are two samples of the kind of statements that assure sexual criminals that their acts would find tolerance. These statements also discourage victims from reporting assaults, which is further encouragement for sexual criminals.

“Women’s fashion, lifestyle and conduct should be in accordance with Indian culture … women should not wear clothes which provoke others (to misbehave with them),” Madhya Pradesh industries minister Kailash Vijayvargiya said here yesterday.

“Women should dress in such a way that they invoke respect in others. However, unfortunately women are dressing provocatively, which is leading to deviation in society,” he said referring to the infamous Guwahati molestation incident.

“After 64 years of freedom, it is not right to give blanket directions and say don’t wear this or don’t wear that. Be comfortable, but at the same time be careful about how you dress,” she had said.

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“Be comfortable, but at the same time, be careful about how you dress… Aping the west blindly is eroding our culture and causing such crimes to happen.” – NCW (National Commission for Women) Chairperson Mamta Sharma

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And here is why creating a culture of tolerance to sexual crimes is dangerous.

Inmates raped at will by outsiders in Hooghly rehabilitation home

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-13/kolkata/32663133_1_guriya-death-certificate-hooghly

GURAP (HOOGHLY): The probe into the mysterious death and burial of a 32-year-old woman in a Hooghly rehabilitation home has unearthed a horror house where inmates were regularly raped and tortured by outsiders. It was virtually a free for all — anyone could walk in after sunset and do whatever he pleased with the women, who are either mentally challenged or speech and hearing impaired, sources said.

Police said it is quite possible that Guriya, whose body was exhumed from the Khajurdaha centre on Wednesday, was sexually tortured before she was killed. Her body was covered with injuries.

The Congress and the Left staged demonstrations to protest the alleged torture of inmates at the rehab home. “Not only the one in Khajurdaha, most of the homes for the destitute are in a miserable condition. Sexual abuse is common in homes for women. In case of physically challenged and mentally handicapped women, it is even worse. They cannot protest against the abuse. No home can run without government licence or funding but there is hardly any monitoring,” said Shampa Sengupta of Shruti, an organization that fights for the rights of physically and mentally challenged women.

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Haryana shocker: Women, children raped in government shelter

Rohtak: It is a sordid tale of exploitation and official involvement from Rohtak in Haryana where women and children at a government-aided shelter in the Chief Minister’s own constituency are being abused and raped.

…pregnant inmates were forced to undergo painful abortions that verged on torture, and were gangraped by police officers.

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Bangalore: Mentally challenged woman raped by 70-yr-old

A 70-year-old man was arrested for allegedly raping his neighbour, a 22-year-old mentally challenged woman, on Wednesday.

The accused, a father of 14 kids, has been identified as Dastagir Khan. He allegedly broke into her house in Neelasandra and raped her around 4 pm.

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Daughter in law locked in cowshed, raped by spouse, neighbours and others.

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54 thoughts on “Shouldn’t Mamta Sharma and Kailash Vijayvargiya be held accountable for the statements they make?

  1. I have just 1 question for these folks: If wearing Indian clothes is all it takes to prevent rape, why are women in villages, 99% of whom would wear Indian clothing, raped? It doesn’t take a genius to understand the complete lack of reason behind this argument, so my guess is that it is not that they don’t understand; they just want to justify their inaction.

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    • Exactly. Mamata Sharma seems to think that ordinary Indian women dress like Playboy bunnies while they work in garment factories, paddy fields, constructions sites and as domestic help in people’s homes.

      No Mamata darling, ordinary Indian women don’t dress like Bollywood’s item girls. We dress in tent-like salwar kameez and saris.

      We STILL get raped. What to do, men can’t help themselves can they, Mamata darling?

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  2. I sometimes wish the Pink Chaddi campaign is revived and we start sending pink chaddies to all such people who talk stupid. They should not be holding those positions and they definitely need a shrink. If they cannot help a victim, the best they could do is to shut up.

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  3. “Why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. But they all seem to. It doesn’t matter what country they’re in or what religion they claim. They want to control women. They want to control how we dress. They want to control how we act. They even want to control the decisions we make about our own health and bodies” – Hillary Clinton

    How is it that we are responsible for every bad thing that happens to us? Somehow we are held responsible for oppression, molestation, eve-teasing, harassment, even rape(??)
    Why has logic taken such a serious hit?

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  4. Oh.

    My.

    God.

    An Indian official who is supposed to be in the business of safeguarding women from assaults on their dignity and person spouts the same old ‘you asked for it’ bullshit in full public view.

    Is anyone else as shocked as I am?

    /sarcasm

    Most of us have already learnt to hold minimal expectations from the Indian government, but I still find this kind of WTF.

    I mean, that’s her explanation for sexual violence? Women get raped/harassed/assaulted because they… ape the West? REALLY?

    What does she think Indian culture is like, then?

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  5. Since I belong to the Westerners whose culture and style of clothing is allegedly aped here, I would like to ask a question: if Western clothes provoke men into raping women, then why is it so much safer for us women in Europe? Shouldn’t we be constantly raped for our clothes, according to this logic? Simple answer: no. Because it has nothing to do with clothing. It is all a question of how you bring up people and how you enforce laws.

    Just for the sake of completion: right now I’m wearing a sleeveless top and a short skirt. I went to the lake in those clothes yesterday. On my bike. Guess what? No man felt provoked to assault me.

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    • I suggest you to be clad in Traditional Indian attire with heavy gold jewellery and then go to the lake.People may not rape you since you are covered up but i guarantee you that they will stare at you and make you uncomfortable.People there are used to seeing everyone in skirts and hence do not interpret them as invitations to have sex.But people here are not used to that and we can not force them to get used to it too since it ultimately depends on what they feel is right for themselves.Why do some Europeans look down upon us Indians whenever we visit them( I will tell you why, that is because we are alien to them just like western clothing is to many Indians)? Why do they snatch away the freedom of clothing by banning the burqa against the wishes of plenty of women who wish to wear it? Why are many teens who arent mature enough both physically and mentally to give birth getting pregnant there?. Before comparing the safety levels between Europe and India you must try and respect the familiarity levels of both kinds of people with different kinds of clothing which apparently you are not doing at present.

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      • Sushobh –

        1. Have you read any statistics that show that most women who get raped or sexually assaulted were wearing western clothes?
        The fact is there are more rapes and sexual assaults on women who look (or are) vulnerable i.e. where the rapists knew they would have Mamtas, CC Patils, Reddys, Kailash etc blaming the victims and silencing them.

        2. We have more teenage pregnancies in India than in the West. Teen mothers don’t get half the care and respect in India than they do in the West. More teen mothers die during child birth and have under nourished children here than in the West, more of them have lesser chance of a happy future than in the West.

        https://indianhomemaker.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/teenage-pregnancies-%E2%80%93-not-our-culture%E2%80%A6/

        3. Do women in Indian clothing in western countries get blamed for provoking the rapists and ruining the western culture?

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      • //I suggest you to be clad in Traditional Indian attire with heavy gold jewellery and then go to the lake.People may not rape you since you are covered up but i guarantee you that they will stare at you and make you uncomfortable.

        We have plenty of Indians here, as this is a multicultural town. I can assure you women in saris are not stared at, I see them regularly in places like – shooo – public transportation.

        //People there are used to seeing everyone in skirts and hence do not interpret them as invitations to have sex.But people here are not used to that and we can not force them to get used to it too since it ultimately depends on what they feel is right for themselves.

        They are free to feel what is right for themselves as long as they give the same courtesy to others. Including women who choose to wear skirts. They too cannot be forced to dress in a special way, since it ultimately depends on what they feel is right for themselves.

        //Why do some Europeans look down upon us Indians whenever we visit them?

        No idea, ask Europeans who do. I personally don’t even look down on Indians when I visit them in their own country. Which happens frequently, since I have friends here.

        //Why do they snatch away the freedom of clothing by banning the burqa against the wishes of plenty of women who wish to wear it?

        I can calm you down about this point: it’s not banned in my country, though politicians keep discussing it since it is often interpreted as a symbol of the oppression of women.

        //Why are many teens who arent mature enough both physically and mentally to give birth getting pregnant there?

        I was actually going to ask you the same question about India. When it comes to worldwide teen pregnancy statistics, my country belongs to the lowest third of the scale while India is high up. Checking the statistics is always helpful.

        //Before comparing the safety levels between Europe and India you must try and respect the familiarity levels of both kinds of people with different kinds of clothing which apparently you are not doing at present.

        A lack of familiarity is no excuse for rape, sorry. Otherwise any European could rightfully assault a woman who wears a sari. Or a burqa, since it’s even less familiar here. Giving weird stares out of unfamiliarity might be bad manners, physically assaulting and abusing someone because of “unfamiliar clothing” is a crime.

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      • Sushobh, I fail to understand your argument as it does not seem to make any sense.

        If Indian men interpret skirts as an invitation to have sex, isn’t there something seriously wrong with our mindset as men and as human beings? If Indian men think that an invitation to have sex (assuming skirts = sex) is an invitation to molest or rape women, isn’t there something disgusting about our attitude towards women? Isn’t this medivial male mindset the root cause that we should be addressing? Will not asking women to cover up in deference to this primitive mindset only result in re-enforcing this mindset? Is this what you want?

        If you say that the rapist has the right to feel what he feels about women’s dresses but women do not have the right to dress the way they want, you are giving preference to a rapist’s right more than a woman’s right. Does this not sound sick to you?

        Your remaining points seem irrelevant. If any Europeans look down on Indians simply because we seem alien, then they are being racist. Are you sure you want to compare yourself to them?

        Yes, banning the burqa is just as wrong as enforcing the burqa as it takes away women’s freedom of clothing. I’m glad that you recognize that it’s wrong. So why are you arguing in favor of taking away women’s freedom of clothing in India?

        Reg teen pregnancies, are you kidding me? IHM has already pointed out why this argument is incorrect.

        Like I mentioned before, your arguments seem illogical and not in keeping with ground reality. Let me know what you think.

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      • Um, let me get this straight:

        You’re against Westerners disapproving of the burqa simply because they’re not used to it, but you’re okay with Indians disapproving of skirts for the same reason?

        You’re against Europeans looking down upon Indian culture, but you have no qualms about asserting the superiority of Indian culture over Western ones?

        What are you even saying?

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      • Sushobh,
        A lot of us have lived outside India and if you would like to believe, the society there is very tolerant towards what you wear. My wife wore her ‘chuda’ for a year when we were in Manchester and not once was she stared at. All she got was compliments on the ‘pretty bangles’.
        Secondly, just because men are not comfortable with women wearing skirts does not mean they have the right to dictate what they should wear and stare at them. Staring is BAD MANNERS. The mothers of such men should have slapped them when they did this fo the first time.
        I am not comfortable with men wearing gold chains in their neck and keep four buttons of their shirt open to show their chest hair. I find it disgusting. Should I start pulling the chains off their neck and beat them up? Or should I declare that they should dress decently?

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      • Well, I am not sure what you mean by that. But I did once go out in an Indian outfit in Europe cos I felt like it, and nobody really bothered me in any way.

        No European has ever looked down upon me, and I have many close friends.

        Burqa is a humiliation and human rights abuse heaped upon women, and hence it is the right thing to do.

        Have you even looked at the statistics? Europe has the lowest rate of teenage pregnancy, depending on which country we are talking about. Western and Northern Europe have a lower rate, Eastern Europe has a somewhat higher rate. But not comparable to India.

        You, my friend, are talking through your hat. You must not do that because hats are western.

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        • Speaking of Hats – I guess, we would eat ours on a day when Sushobh decides to spit out his foot from his mouth.

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      • Which country has the highest number of teenage pregnancies in the world? It’s, umm, INDIA!

        Sushobh do you not see a difference between staring at unfamiliar clothing/people and sexually assaulting people who are dressed in unfamiliar clothing?

        So, since I find your views so unfamiliar and uncomfortable, I’d forgiven if I attacked you?

        Being unfamiliar/uncomfortable with a person’s attire has NOTHING to do with sexually molesting them based on that.

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      • Sushobh- I would suggest you go for a drive outside 90% of the girls wear non-traditional dresses.. HOW long or how many years does it take for person to get used to the ladies wearing what they wear..

        and Also the same person when he sees his sister or mother or aunt do they lust the same way toooo

        Regarding the Burqa you speaking of THAT is entirely a different Issue.. It is banned for a reason and you I am sure know hat the reason is .. The western countries have a law and everyone respects it , IF we have a problem about how they look at our dress then maybe we should not go to that country. You got to respect the law of that nation you are going to .. Same way as we expect foreginers to respect our nations law, when they come here..

        and i guess you been replied on the pregnancy issue..

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      • Common now everybody knows that India has a population of 1.2 billion so its no surprise that it has the highest number of teen pregnancies just like it has the highest population.Its so simple and i am amazed someone is actually holding this against me, i really cant believe it.
        Yet another stupid claim is that you were not stared at when clad in Indian attire in the western nations.Cmon, i really admire your trick of avoiding the bitter truth by appearing to have been mistaken, but its very poor if you ask me.I meant WESTERN PEOPLE in INDIAN CLOTHING and not INDIAN PEOPLE in INDIAN CLOTHING, i really cant believe that i am being made to write in capital letters to prove my point.

        Someone said here that rapes get so much publicity because women get raped simply because they are women.Really? Have you ever met a rapist and asked him why he raped?Do you have any statistics to reveal as to why women keep getting raped in India?.The truth is that there are plenty of reasons and also the easiest way to hurt a enemy who happens to be a women is to rape her.

        And these people who made the statements are right.Do you think parents who advise children against sauntering in crime infested areas are wrong? Okay , i agree women are not children but you have to agree with me that they are just as vulnerable and advising those who are vulnerable is not supporting those that are the cause of terror. Miss Sharma demanded death sentence for the goons in Guwahati on tv, what have you got to say to that?
        But why should women be vulnerable? is what you will surely ask.Now i want to ask you if rich fat men with grandchildren,religious minorities,beggars and off course those who dare to stop rapes arent vulnerable?Dont you think its too selfish and stupid to hope that the government can miraculously stop rapes when there are men who get killed and robbed of money everyday?Do you think the one who dares to kill cant dare to rape?
        I cant even dream to discuss the reason behind this vulnerability but one thing is for sure The Indian mindset does not support murders and robberies and if it is so then why are people getting killed and robbed everyday? Doesn’t it prove that those that dare to commit crimes(kill,rape and rob.someone) rubbish the so called Indian mindset? Doesn’t it prove that it is hopeless to hope for a reduction in the number of rapes as long as other crimes continue?

        IHM, i hope that you write a post on how a number of rapes are a result of false accusations made by coward women who had consensual sex, how these women must be hanged and how they are defaming our nation along with those evil rapists.
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        • Common now everybody knows that India has a population of 1.2 billion so its no surprise that it has the highest number of teen pregnancies just like it has the highest population.Its so simple and i am amazed someone is actually holding this against me, i really cant believe it.

          Humble as my intelligence level is compared to your breathtaking intellect, this fact does not escape me.

          Let me restate the fact for you so that you can understand better.

          On a per capita basis, India has more than twice the number of recorded teen pregnancies of the UK and close to 1.5 times that of the US. And I’m not even comparing Western Europe here, because there is no comparison – the figure is up to six times higher in India than places like France and Germany.
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          Yet another stupid claim is that you were not stared at when clad in Indian attire in the western nations.Cmon, i really admire your trick of avoiding the bitter truth by appearing to have been mistaken, but its very poor if you ask me.I meant WESTERN PEOPLE in INDIAN CLOTHING and not INDIAN PEOPLE in INDIAN CLOTHING, i really cant believe that i am being made to write in capital letters to prove my point.

          Writing in caps does not prove your point, it makes you look idiotic.

          You’re talking BS; it’s pretty clear that you’ve never actually been to a Western country.

          Obviously, if you go to rural Louisiana or someplace like that, you may get stared at (but not raped or even harassed) if you’re wearing ‘unusual’ clothing.

          Outside of the ‘redneck centrals’, America is the sort of place where you’re unlikely to be stared at too much even if you’re a bisexual hippie yoga teacher doing the hula on the street while dressed in drag. People may even compliment you on your style.

          Okay , i agree women are not children but you have to agree with me that they are just as vulnerable and advising those who are vulnerable is not supporting those that are the cause of terror

          So women in the prime of their lives are as vulnerable as children now? Says who?

          Miss Sharma demanded death sentence for the goons in Guwahati on tv, what have you got to say to that

          Nothing apart from the fact that she’s a massive hypocrite, just like you.

          Now i want to ask you if rich fat men with grandchildren,religious minorities,beggars and off course those who dare to stop rapes arent vulnerable?Dont you think its too selfish and stupid to hope that the government can miraculously stop rapes when there are men who get killed and robbed of money everyday?Do you think the one who dares to kill cant dare to rape?

          Once again, with due respect to your tremendous mind-power, no one is expecting rapes to ‘miraculously stop’. This kind of argument is what we lesser mortals call a straw man.
          Read up on it sometime.

          Doesn’t it prove that it is hopeless to hope for a reduction in the number of rapes as long as other crimes continue

          The point of the post was not to hope for a reduction in the number of rapes but to at least acknowledge the victim as a frigging victim, not a culprit.

          Way to go on actually getting the gist of the post before heading off on your rant.

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        • Even when you are writing it in bold, you are alas! unfortunately! again wrong. This basically shows that you have never been outside India. No, a western woman wearing a sari does not get stared at. I have seen a lot of western women wearing saris and salwar kamiz and people complimented them. It is considered cool in the west if you look different. If you would have come to the Diwali mela in Manchester you would have been SHOCKED to see western men wearing Kurta Payjama and women wearing sari. I am sure they would have not worn them if they were scared of being molested on the way back home.

          //why are people getting killed and robbed everyday?
          Errr..because murderers know that they can get away from it. Because of lawnessness. Because of people in power supporting them.

          And the same applies for molesters and rapists. That is why we all are disgusted at the remarks of Mamta Sharma. Because she is supporting them by her remarks.
          *bangs head on the wall*
          Thank you.

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      • Why do some Europeans look down upon us Indians whenever we visit them……………..how strange……..whenever I visit UK or Europe, whenever any citizen there comes to know that I come from India, they immediately become really really hospitable!!! Even more hospitable then they usually are!

        Walking on streets there (in jeans and tshirt) makes me feel NORMAL…walking in the same attire here in my ‘Motherland’ makes me feel like I have forgotten to put on my clothes..the disgusting way those vultures stare…PATHETIC

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  6. What I don’t understand is this – what culture are they talking? Every act that supposedly ‘erodes our culture’, has been done earlier, and we worship the protagonists. For example, didn’t Parvathi seduce Shiva (Poor Cupid had to suffer for it)? Didn’t Rukmini elope with Krishna – on the very day she was supposed to marry another man whom her father had chosen for her! Don’t the carvings on our temple walls celebrate the female form? Their outfits are more scanty than a skirt and top, for heaven’s sake! I could go on forever (might make for an interesting blog). We worship the gods who do what is ‘dishonourable’ for us to? How hypocritical!
    Culture, anyone?

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  7. How about in every metro in busy public places we put a huge hoarding or a “wall of shame” so as to speak and put up the pictures of public figures and law enforcement people who say stupid things with captions like “This man let a rapist walk free but wants to tell you how to wear your clothes” or “if you’re ever in trouble dont go this policeman as he cant be trusted” and so on. In a country where rape has become a “meh” occurance, public shame for some reason still holds great weight in terms of the fear it generates and the way it makes people fall in line.

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  8. IHM, when I wrote about this guy’s(Vijayvargiya’s) stand vs my opinion on Facebook, I got support from even the people who always joke about the stereotypes of men and women (who I always considered misogynists). That gives me hope. When the public (not just feminists) shows horror at these statements, the politicians will change their stand. After all, they want to get elected again.

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  9. I honestly have started wondering if these “officials” KNOW that we will outrage at such statements and use them as diversionary tactics. I mean look at how the debate has shifted from basic safety and security to women, to the right of an elite minority to dress the way they want to? First world problems, no? Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely believe that all of us have the right to dress the way we want, go where we want, drink when we want to,etc But I also believe there are more pressing problems – like the right of the thousands of women in ghoongats and burqas and shalwar kameez to the most basic rights. That really has to come first, and provocative statements conveniently shift the focus to issues that are definitely valid, but not nearly as pressing.

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    • I think these people mean what they say and all these issues are related – when we support rapists, all women (and their families and the society), no matter where they live, what they eat, drink, wear etc, are affected.

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    • There will always be more grave issues. Like genocide in Africa. I think we should protest at every level, I don’t think I have to sacrifice my rights or put them on the back burner because there are women in villages who are worse off than me. My safety and security is also important.

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    • Yes, they use a smokescreen to deflect attention from the core issue to something that is completely irrelevant.

      Mamata Sharma skillfully shifted the debate from safety for women to a straw figure – Western attire.

      Now everybody’s busy countering her argument and the original outrage, the Guwhati incident, has been completely sidelined.

      Mamata Sharma’s appointment was probably political which is why she has no sense of accountability or respect for the office she holds.

      Taxpayers, ordinary women, pay for your VIP status Mamata darling. Have some shame. Why should you? You’re just a political flunkey.

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    • I mean look at how the debate has shifted from basic safety and security to women, to the right of an elite minority to dress the way they want to

      I’m baffled by that statement.

      The debate has and had sweet bugger all to do with the right to dress the way you want to.

      The issue here isn’t that Mamata Sharma hates Western clothing, the issue is that Mamata Sharma, like countless others before her, just shifted responsibility for sexual violence entirely from the perpetrators to the victims. She doesn’t say ‘A lack of respect for the law is the problem’ or ‘A lack of respect for women is the problem’. No sir; she goes out and rants about how women are eroding western culture and how that erosion of culture (whatever that means) is causing the problems.

      If battling that kind of an attitude isn’t a pressing problem, what on god’s green Earth is?

      Victim blaming IS the main issue. It is why this kind of crap happens over and over and over again. It is why Indian women don’t really taste true freedom until they leave India.

      It’s the victim-blaming that irks me, not her views on dress.

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  10. Both of them definitely should be held accountable for their statements. At the very least, they should lose the official positions that they hold. What would have happened had a government minister made a statement like “The victims of terrorism are responsible for ensuring that they do not provoke the terrorists”? All hell would have (rightly) broken loose. That person would have been kicked out of their job immediately. But here, a similar outrageous comment did not even make a blip. How do such morons get elected to public office?

    What makes it even worse…much more immeasurably worse…is seeing the comments on the articles that reported this statement. If those commenters constitute a fair representative sample of our country, then we seem pretty well-stocked up with absolute blithering idiots. A lot of them are depressingly sexist, some of them mean well, but are clueless about where the blame should rest.

    These are a few of the messages that I feel needs to go out desperately to the public. They are all pretty obvious and self-evident to almost everyone in this forum. Yet our country seems strangely oblivious to these basic home-truths.

    1. Women are not public property. So, the public does not get to dictate women’s personal habits or their wardrobe. Women are individual human beings and they have the basic right to wear anything that they want to wear without fear of assault or fear of getting blamed for the assault.
    2. The phrase “dressing provocatively” has no meaning. Dresses do not have any capacity to provoke anyone. If a man gets provoked by a woman in a particular kind of dress, the fault lies in his mindset, not on the dress or the woman. Of course, the fact that men in our country get provoked by pretty much all kinds of dresses seems to have been conveniently ignored
    3. Even if we assume that a woman’s dress is provocative and that a man gets provoked as a result, it still does not give the man any right to attack or assault the woman. He has the very simple time-tested option of closing his eyes or turning his head and looking at someone or something else. No woman deserves to get sexually assaulted or raped for her dress. No woman deserves to get sexually assaulted or raped for any reason whatsoever.
    4. Also, even if women somehow agree to this and decide to dress within the confines of sexist norms, the assaults will not stop or even slow down. Something else she does would be considered provocative. I’ve had people tell me that a woman laughing loud is provocative, a woman sitting with one leg over the other in front of a man is provocative, a woman walking upright with her head held high is provocative, a woman going to work is provocative, a woman walking alone at night is provocative…WTF, India???…the list never ends…because people are too dense to realize that the woman’s existence is itself sufficient to provoke the rapist or molester. As a result, anything she does is open to being called provocative.
    5. Women do not get raped because of their dress or her behavior or their drinking habits or the places they visit or the time till they stay out or anything. Women get raped for one reason and one reason only…they get raped because someone decided to rape them. The blame lies exclusively with the rapist. If some genuis tries to distract focus from the rapist by pointing to the victim’s dress or conduct or habits, the afore-mentioned genius also shares a part of the blame for supporting and encouraging the rapist.

    What the MP minister and the NCW chairperson are doing here is empowering the molesters/rapists and telling them that no matter what they do, the woman will be blamed. They are, in effect, encouraging violence against women. How can they not be penalized or legally punished for this?
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    The below is just a short PSA about street sexual harassment in the US. We need something similar (but a lot stronger) in our country.


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  11. Why am I not surprised? A couple days ago Times Now screened a Khap Panchayat’s main lead ‘justifying’ the reasons as to why a woman should not leave the house unescorted and why they should they should not have mobiles. Guess what? The person ‘justifying’ these was a woman. I fail to understand the thought process that causes them to make statements like these. If the powers that are supposed to fight for women make such statement, then we are doomed.

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  12. I don’t know IHM, tears just started rolling from my eyes when I read about guriya and the plight of women and children in such homes. I am not in a right frame of mind to comment further…. I just feel soo helpless! we need to do something about this and I don’t know what to do, whom to trust and how to go about it..
    Sorry if my comment was incoherent.

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  13. I can’t believe that these statements came from a woman who is a chairperson for the National Commission For Women. I mean, seriously? If this is a person who is supposed to be looking after the welfare of women in the country, then India is in serious trouble.

    This situation has disgusted me from the start. I couldn’t even bring myself to watch that video. What kind of world is it when a woman is sexually assaulted by 12 men, and no one helps her? Where the police basically act as if it never happened? Where WOMEN are the ones telling other women to watch what they wear.

    This infuriates me! If clothes were the case, as someone else pointed out, then why are women who wear Indian clothes still getting raped and assaulted? Just because a sari, or a salwar kameez is a loose fabric, doesn’t mean it’s any harder to rip off!

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  14. Thank you for the link up. What I find more distressing than stupid statements from the likes of Mamta Sharma is the fact that women/men who think like her are heading bodies that are meant to represent the well-being of women. We need 1. a serious overhaul in the laws regarding sexual harassment and violence against women 2. A total change in the way the existing police force works

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  17. its natural tendency of female to attract as many male as possible thats why they dress sexy,and its natural male who want to have a sexy female..and this shit happens!! But anyway laws should act firmly to punish.
    About mamta..she is there with political blessings thats why she cant resist wrong doings even iF the IHM iS made ncw chief nothing can be changed!

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    • sandeep, did you mean to say is that it is natural for young people to enjoy each other’s company and this is a part of the natural and perfectly healthy process of learning about each other, learning about themselves learning about life and finding future life partners? What young men need to learn is that finding someone attractive is not wrong, harassing or sexually assaulting them is. Also Indian men need to be informed that a woman has a right to consent (or not), even if she is very attractive, even if she is a sex worker, even if she seems to like them, even if she has no way to protect herself, and even if she has slept with one or many other men, even if they are sure she finds them attractive, she still has a right to refuse to have sex with them.

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      • i agree women have each and every right to wear they want in a developed or undeveloped world!the need of hour is people should change their minds.dont worry girls the time will come soon the process is started …just u need to be stronger.In my homevillage girls have started wearing jeans this was impossible 3 years back. So u see their is more chances of improvement as compared to degradation.

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        • Yes Sandeep, I think all these bans are actually an indication that the change is worrying those who (or their loved ones) would never find a partner unless women are forced to marry them.

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  18. and..only clothes cannot be held responsible.. Clothes can be cause of staring in India coz a huge number of people are not habitual of wathcing naked legs of women..they definitely feel that she want someone to f**k her.Its all depends on situation and conditions,u can travel in skirt in metro train with minimum staring but if u travel in a passenger train?what do u expect from small minded people?they will try to rape u with their eyes atleast!
    Rape can be a result of revenge too.But slowly and steadily indian men are learning self control it will take time but definitely we will cross threshold of europe level one day..jai hind!

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